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	<title>Comments for Molly Kerby, MPH, PhD</title>
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	<description>Dr. Molly Kerby, Assistant Professor, Gender &#38; Women&#039;s Studies</description>
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		<title>Comment on Condoms &amp; Crosses at WKU by Beyond Dimensions</title>
		<link>http://molly.kerby.blog.wku.edu/2012/04/26/condoms-crosses-at-wku/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Beyond Dimensions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;anyone directly trying to silence them or make a farce of their ideals has infringed the rights guaranteed to them by the first amendment to the Constitution.&quot;

No. The Constitution and more specifically the first amendment does not give you the liberty to say whatever you want to say where ever you want to say it without fear of repercussion for your words/actions from other citizens. The only thing the first amendment does is it prevents the government from infringing on your right to speak. The government is not involved in this discussion. 

Though what you do have is a school administration attempting to bully a lone student into complying with their desires because the administration is bowing down to an anti-choice group that&#039;s being backed by conservative media. And WKU doesn&#039;t want the bad press.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;anyone directly trying to silence them or make a farce of their ideals has infringed the rights guaranteed to them by the first amendment to the Constitution.&#8221;</p>
<p>No. The Constitution and more specifically the first amendment does not give you the liberty to say whatever you want to say where ever you want to say it without fear of repercussion for your words/actions from other citizens. The only thing the first amendment does is it prevents the government from infringing on your right to speak. The government is not involved in this discussion. </p>
<p>Though what you do have is a school administration attempting to bully a lone student into complying with their desires because the administration is bowing down to an anti-choice group that&#8217;s being backed by conservative media. And WKU doesn&#8217;t want the bad press.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Condoms &amp; Crosses at WKU by former art student</title>
		<link>http://molly.kerby.blog.wku.edu/2012/04/26/condoms-crosses-at-wku/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>former art student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a former sculpture student at WKU having just graduated with my Bachelor of Arts this past December.  Although I am of two minds about this since the freedom of speech is touched upon in this story,  I am in strong support of what the art student did as a reaction to the Hilltoppers for Life project.  Abortion is a very touchy subject and the members of HFL should understand that when a project like that is done, people are going to be offended. So when an art student completes a project that was meant to counter theirs, they should have seen that coming.  HFL did use their freedom to speak what they felt about abortion, but so did the art student and since she countered HFL&#039;s project by place those condoms on their crosses, HFL really had no right to attack back.  

Another thing that I do not agree with is Gary Ransdell made her apologize for what she did.  By doing that he violated her right to speak freely and indirectly spit in the faces of the whole art department because speaking freely is the big part of being an artist.  For a man who spent 100&#039;s of thousands of our tuition money to purchase all the art around campus that reminded him of the Spirit of Western, his choice to punish the art student instead of the student group for the situation in general is highly hypocritical of him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a former sculpture student at WKU having just graduated with my Bachelor of Arts this past December.  Although I am of two minds about this since the freedom of speech is touched upon in this story,  I am in strong support of what the art student did as a reaction to the Hilltoppers for Life project.  Abortion is a very touchy subject and the members of HFL should understand that when a project like that is done, people are going to be offended. So when an art student completes a project that was meant to counter theirs, they should have seen that coming.  HFL did use their freedom to speak what they felt about abortion, but so did the art student and since she countered HFL&#8217;s project by place those condoms on their crosses, HFL really had no right to attack back.  </p>
<p>Another thing that I do not agree with is Gary Ransdell made her apologize for what she did.  By doing that he violated her right to speak freely and indirectly spit in the faces of the whole art department because speaking freely is the big part of being an artist.  For a man who spent 100&#8242;s of thousands of our tuition money to purchase all the art around campus that reminded him of the Spirit of Western, his choice to punish the art student instead of the student group for the situation in general is highly hypocritical of him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Condoms &amp; Crosses at WKU by A WKU Alumni: Crosses and Condoms &#171; A Bookish Beemer</title>
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		<dc:creator>A WKU Alumni: Crosses and Condoms &#171; A Bookish Beemer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] They expected some kind of art display. They expected a response, so they could throw a hissy fit. As Dr. Molly Kerby pointed out in her brilliant response to this hissy fit, the anti-choicers set up the crosses to spell out &#8220;life&#8221; on the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] They expected some kind of art display. They expected a response, so they could throw a hissy fit. As Dr. Molly Kerby pointed out in her brilliant response to this hissy fit, the anti-choicers set up the crosses to spell out &#8220;life&#8221; on the [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kids who veer from gender norms at higher risk for abuse by Make a baby</title>
		<link>http://molly.kerby.blog.wku.edu/2012/02/21/kids-who-veer-from-gender-norms-at-higher-risk-for-abuse/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>Make a baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Condoms &amp; Crosses at WKU by Former Student</title>
		<link>http://molly.kerby.blog.wku.edu/2012/04/26/condoms-crosses-at-wku/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Former Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am somewhat pro-choice, a former WKU student and a professional painter, but vandalism is not art and condoms on crosses is lude. 

While I believe this young lady was within her rights, her display was crude and message-less. Great art must move people, fill them with an emotion for something, but it must also make a point. I may very well be wrong about this - I did not see the display, but I don&#039;t believe HFL was stating in this display that they were against sex, just against the abortion of life created via that medium. So then how does the draping of condoms over crosses representing fetuses already created make a valid statement? I&#039;m just asking the question here because I believe it is a valid one that does not necessarily call for an apology from the student, but a reexamination of her project for quality of work. 

Merely doing something shocking does not qualify said work as something of quality if the work itself is senseless. If that were the case, it would be quite easy to attain an &quot;A&quot; in an art class at WKU. I can hardly wait to see what media attention students seeking shock value without inhibition will cause on campus if this is not dealt with in an academically professional way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am somewhat pro-choice, a former WKU student and a professional painter, but vandalism is not art and condoms on crosses is lude. </p>
<p>While I believe this young lady was within her rights, her display was crude and message-less. Great art must move people, fill them with an emotion for something, but it must also make a point. I may very well be wrong about this &#8211; I did not see the display, but I don&#8217;t believe HFL was stating in this display that they were against sex, just against the abortion of life created via that medium. So then how does the draping of condoms over crosses representing fetuses already created make a valid statement? I&#8217;m just asking the question here because I believe it is a valid one that does not necessarily call for an apology from the student, but a reexamination of her project for quality of work. </p>
<p>Merely doing something shocking does not qualify said work as something of quality if the work itself is senseless. If that were the case, it would be quite easy to attain an &#8220;A&#8221; in an art class at WKU. I can hardly wait to see what media attention students seeking shock value without inhibition will cause on campus if this is not dealt with in an academically professional way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Condoms &amp; Crosses at WKU by The Double Edged Sword that is Freedom of Speech &#171; Saira Says</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Double Edged Sword that is Freedom of Speech &#171; Saira Says</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] more in detail about this case, art installations in WKU, and the assignments in question at Molly Kerby&#8217;s blog. Kerby is a professor of gender and women&#8217;s studies as [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more in detail about this case, art installations in WKU, and the assignments in question at Molly Kerby&#8217;s blog. Kerby is a professor of gender and women&#8217;s studies as [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Condoms &amp; Crosses at WKU by Neha Angal</title>
		<link>http://molly.kerby.blog.wku.edu/2012/04/26/condoms-crosses-at-wku/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>Neha Angal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your letter. Frankly, I am surprised that the HFL saw this as an art instillation in the first place. Their booth and large anti-abortion signs directly in front of the display screamed political demonstration. Although I did find this display less offensive than the &#039;hell-fire and brimstone&quot; preachers who come to campus and harass people outside of DUC, I did feel it was inflammatory. The most ridiculous part of this whole mess was Ransdell&#039;s choice to pick a side in a situation that was clearly politically motivated. He has made a fool of WKU&#039;s entire campus by choosing to endorse one politically motivated action over its opposite, and by calling for the punishment of those who were exercising their first amendment rights. I am now disappointed to say I go to WKU.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your letter. Frankly, I am surprised that the HFL saw this as an art instillation in the first place. Their booth and large anti-abortion signs directly in front of the display screamed political demonstration. Although I did find this display less offensive than the &#8216;hell-fire and brimstone&#8221; preachers who come to campus and harass people outside of DUC, I did feel it was inflammatory. The most ridiculous part of this whole mess was Ransdell&#8217;s choice to pick a side in a situation that was clearly politically motivated. He has made a fool of WKU&#8217;s entire campus by choosing to endorse one politically motivated action over its opposite, and by calling for the punishment of those who were exercising their first amendment rights. I am now disappointed to say I go to WKU.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Condoms &amp; Crosses at WKU by Catalina</title>
		<link>http://molly.kerby.blog.wku.edu/2012/04/26/condoms-crosses-at-wku/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>Catalina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Condoms &amp; Crosses at WKU by Beyond Dimensions</title>
		<link>http://molly.kerby.blog.wku.edu/2012/04/26/condoms-crosses-at-wku/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Beyond Dimensions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, this went up last night: http://wkuherald.com/news/article_1b89f40e-8ff4-11e1-b2c2-001a4bcf6878.html#user-comment-area

I cannot say how disappointed I am in Ransdell for attempting to put words in the student&#039;s mouth.

And the student should get full credit for the assignment, she followed the professor&#039;s instructions and did not alter the primary display permanently. What the anti-choice group is doing is nothing short of petty revenge and bullying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, this went up last night: <a href="http://wkuherald.com/news/article_1b89f40e-8ff4-11e1-b2c2-001a4bcf6878.html#user-comment-area" rel="nofollow">http://wkuherald.com/news/article_1b89f40e-8ff4-11e1-b2c2-001a4bcf6878.html#user-comment-area</a></p>
<p>I cannot say how disappointed I am in Ransdell for attempting to put words in the student&#8217;s mouth.</p>
<p>And the student should get full credit for the assignment, she followed the professor&#8217;s instructions and did not alter the primary display permanently. What the anti-choice group is doing is nothing short of petty revenge and bullying.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Condoms &amp; Crosses at WKU by Holly Hudnall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly Hudnall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a Folk Studies graduate student, and my department is also housed in the Fine Arts Center. For a week, every day, several times daily, I got to see the enormous &quot;installation&quot; that covered the bleachers in front of my building. It prompted discussions--though perhaps not the kind of discussions HFL was encouraging. Topics included:
--We could flip every one of their little crosses upside down in protest.
--I think I need to make a pro-choice sign and dot their &quot;i&quot;. 
--Can we make a &quot;choice chain&quot; up the sidewalk?

The &quot;interactive boards&quot; were also places where students placed messages of protest, though I confess many of them were in poor taste, both in matters of grammar and public decency. I sympathized, however, with the irritation of those who posted those messages. The stadium-sized display amounted to a visual assault. HFL&#039;s message of &quot;life&quot; could not be easily read from the elevation from which students normally enter the building, so that many students were simply confused about why the bleachers where we often eat lunch, study, and congregate were covered by crosses and red and black material.

While I firmly support HFL&#039;s right to speak freely, I think a week-long installation of such magnitude was intrusive, and I fully support the art student&#039;s right to publicly respond to such a display. She wasn&#039;t the only one considering it, she was simply the one voice that responded, in kind, to the display. Personally, I applaud that one voice, and thank her for speaking out on my behalf. 

--Holly Hudnall]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Folk Studies graduate student, and my department is also housed in the Fine Arts Center. For a week, every day, several times daily, I got to see the enormous &#8220;installation&#8221; that covered the bleachers in front of my building. It prompted discussions&#8211;though perhaps not the kind of discussions HFL was encouraging. Topics included:<br />
&#8211;We could flip every one of their little crosses upside down in protest.<br />
&#8211;I think I need to make a pro-choice sign and dot their &#8220;i&#8221;.<br />
&#8211;Can we make a &#8220;choice chain&#8221; up the sidewalk?</p>
<p>The &#8220;interactive boards&#8221; were also places where students placed messages of protest, though I confess many of them were in poor taste, both in matters of grammar and public decency. I sympathized, however, with the irritation of those who posted those messages. The stadium-sized display amounted to a visual assault. HFL&#8217;s message of &#8220;life&#8221; could not be easily read from the elevation from which students normally enter the building, so that many students were simply confused about why the bleachers where we often eat lunch, study, and congregate were covered by crosses and red and black material.</p>
<p>While I firmly support HFL&#8217;s right to speak freely, I think a week-long installation of such magnitude was intrusive, and I fully support the art student&#8217;s right to publicly respond to such a display. She wasn&#8217;t the only one considering it, she was simply the one voice that responded, in kind, to the display. Personally, I applaud that one voice, and thank her for speaking out on my behalf. </p>
<p>&#8211;Holly Hudnall</p>
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